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Good question. While I personally would not consider “suggesting copyright overall is now meaningless” to be a failure(0), there’s no way in hell anything that might even remotely harm industry revenue would ever make it through Congress, European Parliament, and/or the Japanese Diet; much less survive challenges in the court or WTO. So the only reforms I can actually suggest are marginal things like this.

Anyway.

First you need to legally define the kinds of licenses we care about. There’s a bunch of very good reasons why permission can’t be sold, so we want to make it clear that we’re only talking about things that function like a sale. That is, one-time purchases of works that are downloaded to a device and whose license grants fall within normal use of that work. This is the sort of thing that needs to be drafted water-tight because the industry absolutely will search for excuses to not comply with the law.

Second, we need to define how a transfer can be done and who needs to honor it. This has per-work and per-service considerations, especially in games(1), which have anticheat and toxic player removal. There are times where a copyright owner has a legitimate interest in taking away the thing you bought because you are ruining the experience for everyone else. So we need carveouts for our carveouts, both of which need to be carefully drafted to not interfere with anticheat.

And this is only considering digital-to-digital first sale. That’s easy to do because the systems already exist to revoke and delete your ownership over digital copies of works; you just aren’t allowed to use them for first sale purposes. We’re ultimately just dictating that certain kinds of DRM license files have a legal mechanism to transfer between owners.

Physical-to-digital schemes like the IA’s Controlled Digital Lending pose an additional problem: there’s nothing to physically enforce the destruction or disabling of the physical copy when you convert it to a digital one and lend it. The book doesn’t refuse to open because someone has it open in Adobe Editions. Everything is done on the honor system and there’s massive incentives to cheat CDL. The discovery on the IA lawsuit showed that they basically had never complied with their own legal theory. They had partner libraries who were counting copies of books as digitally loanable without actually taking them out of circulation, and when IA had discovered this on their own, they never did anything to take that library out of the system.

An actually legal CDL regime would need infrastructure to support itself. I’m talking legally qualified DRM banks that could lock up or burn books in exchange for DRM limited files that accurately represented the time in which the physical side of the book was inaccessible. That’s… still extremely complicated. Actually, screw CDL. If we’re talking about amending the law, there is a far easier way to go about fixing the problem with ebook lending: Book Communism!

Compulsory licensing is a scheme in which the government sets the price of a specific kind of copyright license. If you pay that amount of money to the copyright owner, you automatically have that permission, they can’t say no. Naturally, copyright owners would liken this to theft, but they thought your dad’s VCR was a home-invading rapist(2), so I don’t consider their opinions on the subject to be meaningful. The idea is actually pretty straightforward: having a government-set license price makes licensing a lot more straightforward. Creative work owners can’t make silly demands of users or withhold shit because their “””strategy””” that quarter was to keep something off the market or sell exclusivity(3).

The specific imbalance that IA tried to fix with CDL is that libraries, being public services run by local governments, do not have negotiating leverage for favorable ebook lending terms with major publishers. “Just lend out physical books digitally” fixes the problem for libraries but the infrastructure needed to make this not unfair to authors or publishers is silly. Why can’t we just have the federal government say, OK, we’ll sell licenses in which any library can pay $X to the owner of a given book and then digitally lend it out Y times or for Z days? The Copyright Office or some administrative judge can determine fair values for X, Y, and Z.

(0) For one thing, if you are a small artist, you effectively do not have copyright protection because the enforcement costs for a single infringer greatly exceed your total revenues. Copyright is already a failed system.

(1) For example, if reselling whole accounts is legal, then I can buy hundreds of accounts, play the game I want to cheat in on each one, and switch accounts whenever I get banned.

If reselling individual licenses is legal, then after I get banned, I can resell the license – which continues to remain valid – and get my money back so I can repurchase the game on a new account with a fake identity.

(2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Valenti#Valenti_on_new_te…

(3) A related wrinkle in the CDL story is that publishers really, really hate libraries. Not because they let people read books for free – in fact, library circulation is actually really good advertising for sequels that won’t hit libraries right away. The problem is that libraries are run by book fans, so they’re going to recommend books they like, not what the publisher needs to sell that month.

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This is an absurdly strained & non-factual summary of the history.

>one man’s seemingly fanatical conviction against the law

Reviewing the large number of amicus briefs on the Archive’s side, from the get-go through appeals, refutes the idea this was a solitary crusade: https://blog.archive.org/2023/12/29/friend-of-the-court-brie…

Those supporting IA’s position range from the American Library Association (the world’s oldest & largest library advocacy group), to individual libraries of all kinds, to expert IP law academics, to public-interest advocates like the Center for Democracy & Technology or Public Knowledge, to fellow open-culture organizations like Wikipedia, Creative Commons, & Project Gutenberg. Also: lots of book authors, including those with commercial success & titles inside the IA’s lending program.

The IA was in the leading position, sure – but taking the arrows for a very large group of like-minded organizations sharing a stance against copyright maximalism. Personalizing it as one man’s radical crusade is odd.

>asked to stop… tried to open a dialogue

Saying no to the copyright maximalists, even through their claims of absolute control & threatened or actual lawsuits, has been essential in establishing the actual settled law around copyright.

What sort of ‘dialogue’ can be had when the sides have incompatible views of the law: one believing in a permissionless right to do an exact something (supported by reasoning & precedent) and another asserting an absolute right to prohibit that exact same thing (supported by other reasoning & precedent)? Each side needs to enact their beliefs then resolve it in the courts.

HathiTrust – a major consortium of university libraries – was the named defendent in an earlier lawsuit by some of the same copyrightholder interests with regard to Google Books scanning. (It’s also an ally of the Internet Archive in this fight.) Should HathiTrust have rolled over when “asked to stop” scanning by rightsholders? Absolutely not: they won in court & on appeal.

If Sony hadn’t appealed the Betamax decision to the Supreme Court, VCRs & everything since that let people record their own copies of TV programs could’ve been “illegal”. A mere ‘dialogue’ with TV broadcasters or moviemaker trade associations couldn’t have done anything: the issues had to be ruled on by legal authorities.

>In addition, there has been real collateral damage to the many noble aspects of the Internet Archive. Legal fees and judgements have diverted resources away from the Wayback Machine, the library of public domain works, and other IA programs that provide real value to society. I truly hope the organization can survive.

I agree that the overheated rhetoric from both the plaintiffs (about giant but never-proven sdamages) and defendants (about how central these principles are to IA) may have created that impression in some coverage – but the idea this was ever existential for IA, in legal costs or potential damages, is pure paranoid fantasy.

As a non-profit, the IA files detailed form 990s with the IRS showing income & expenses. I challenge you to find any hint of legal costs changing other operations in the years since the lawsuit was filed (2020) and appeals launched.

I suspect, but have no inside info, that much of the costs were borne by other advocacy & legal organizations/donors that wanted to pursue a ruling on these particular essential issues. That is: this battle was fought with resources targeted for this program and these legal principles, not resources diverted from other programs.

As part of private settlement with the plaintiffs in 2023 – not any court monetary judgment against it – the IA agreed to make some undisclosed payment but ALSO had permission from the plaintiffs for IA to continue to pursue appeals (like the one just ruled-upon) on the issues important to IA, at no risk of further damages.

That’s hardly the “scorched earth” plaintiff behavior implied by some hyped coverage imagining an IA bankruptcy, or other threats to its ability “to survive”.

This was always a dispute on some copyright principles; it will be a loss to the public if IA’s vision of format-shifted digital lending is ultimately ruled illegal, but no impact to IA’s other long-established programs.

Finally: this may not be the final chapter & ruling on these issues. Sony had to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court before getting the Betamax ruling in 1984. Google had to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court before getting a ruling that API reimplementation could be fair use in 2021. I don’t know if IA will judge it as worthwhile to appeal. But they might! And before those other historic final appeals, the preceding judgements seemed pretty definitive and bleak for the ultimate victors.

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